Welcome to EDL 522. As part of the requirements for this course you will be required to post comments to this blog after every class session. These comments should be a reflection of the readings, lectures, guest speakers, activities, or discussions that occurred during the day. I hope you enjoy the class and I will do my best to share with you the theoretical and practical lessons that you will need to be a successful school administrator.
Sunday, November 21, 2010
Interviews
During my internship I was able to interview multiple teaching positions, this class would have better prepared me for those interviews. I had to create my own questions for the interview process. I feel now that I have a better question bank to use in future interviews.
Tuesday, November 16, 2010
11/14/10
I also thought the the ladies that came in to do presentations was extremely helpful. To get the information straight from them was very valuable. I have never worked in a building with a counselor and was under the impression that they still did exactly what they used to do when I was in school. I now understand some of the frustrations voiced from our resident classmate counselors.
11/13/10
I also thought that building and reviewing some of the job descriptions for today was quite an eye-opener. It made realize how little I know at times what others around me actually do and get accomplished in their concentration. A very well written job description can help to hold teachers to a high standard of education while a poorly written one may allow for that "slacking" after tenure.
Monday, November 15, 2010
Sunday Nov 14
I really enjoyed having the counselors come in. Our building is still dealing with the old school model of a counselor. I was quite surprised at what their roles in our schools can really be. They can provide an important part to a school but seem to be overlooked far too frequently. How do we make that transition with a counselor who is still using the old model and a principal that does not truly understand how to utilize a counselor?
Remediation
Sunday, Nov. 14th
Saturday Nov. 13
School Counselor Visit
11/14
Also, it was beneficial to be able to not only listen to current school counselors, but also to be able to have small group interaction with one from my building level. I can say that I am one that has failed to understand the relevance for school counselors, but after hearing their job descriptions and listening to their daily activities, I now understand more the need for effective counselors, and the positive interactions between them and building administrators.
Grant Iles
The interview process was fun. I can see where having a group of people in the actual interview can lead to great discussions. I belive that our group did a great job discussing the interview. We were able to give Emily ways to improve for her next interview. Besides focusing on Emily we talked about what we might do different the next time we interviewed someone. It was great practice.
Weekend 2 Day 2
I was also impressed with the presentation about the role of counselors in schools. I especially enjoyed the time to breakout and discuss with the counselors and other middle school teachers. The school I work at hired a full time counselor last year and as I was listening to the presentation many of the initiatives he has started or is trying to start suddenly made more sense when I realized the counselors job is not the same as it was when I was in school.
-Jake Crase
Sunday, November 14, 2010
Nov 14
Interview Dilemma
The discussion after the interview was the most enlightening to me. I discovered how one sided my view is. It was eye opening as to how narrow minded I was being. My initial reaction to the candidate was that she didn't "wow" me. I wouldn't hire her. As our team went through the questions one by one, I saw that she really did have some good answers and would probably be a good hire.
I think having been burned before as a member of an interview committee has made me feel a great amount of pressure in hiring just the right person. Three times, a committee I was part of hired what turned out to be very negative, self-serving imposters. As a result of these experiences, I am extremely cautious of a candidate who looks great on paper. All three of these "bad hires" in my past had almost impeccable records on paper. They had perfect graphs, schedules, and data. They made promises that never came true. They proclaimed their advocacy to students, commitment to being a team player, and ability to communicate effectively with parents. Those traits never came to be in any of those people.
The interview experience yesterday and today may have helped me be more lenient on my judgments. A work in progress for sure!
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In terms of the process involved in interviewing, I could see that in our group there were so many individual perspectives that it took much discussion, and one major one:)), until we finally reached a consensus. I can see why it might be easier to have a smaller panel for an interview session.
I find it interesting that the school code has changed for the role of counselor; however, there are many districts that are still following the older job description. I think that having one more faculty member to contribute to the vision and academic goals for the school is very beneficial. It is a detriment to the students that schools are not following the new job description and making it work for the best interest of the students.
Remediation-Consulting Teacher
Another teacher and I took it upon ourselves to help a struggling teacher last year. Without giving more detail, I can say it was very difficult for us. We were not sure if we were using the right strategies or having the right conversations. The struggling teacher was very appreciative of the other teacher and the conversations they had and methods shared. However, those conversations were tough and I think it might have been more than the "consulting teacher" could handle. I was simply the facilitator of these conversations and it was tough at times. With no administrative support, we were floundering.
As I reflect on that situation, I am glad that we gave the extra time, effort, and thought because things could not remain as they had been. How does a principal choose that consulting teacher and how much support is given?
Interviews
The mock interviews were a great learning tool for our class. It gave us a chance to learn some things about us as people as well and what each of us look for in a “good” candidate. I found that we should have prepared a little more regarding who was going to lead the interview process, ask specific questions, and what it was we were truly looking for. During the interview, we found some areas that we didn’t have any questions for, but the members of my group adapted and improvised. These are two extremely important qualities for administration. I also reflected on some of our questions needed to have follow-up questions after the response of the candidate. Overall, I think it was a very rewarding experience for our group and for the student teacher.
this weekend
Interviews, Remediation, and Counseling
Interviewing-Getting the right people on the bus!
The other part of the today's presentation I found to be helpful was the information on remediation. The process is a little different in Iowa than Illinois and the process of evaluation is different as well. I thought this information helped me to understand the process and what happens when a teacher is in need of improvement or unsatisfactory.
Nov. 14th Class
Remediating teachers is an area inwhich administrators need to be well versed. It made me think when it was said that it is cheaper to spend time remediating a teacher than releasing a teacher and hiring a new one to only start all over again. Again we get into the IL code and the law in dealing with underperforming teachers. An administrator needs to know so much and keep up on current events to be able to be successful in the field.
Having the counselors spend the time with us was very interesting for me in the fact I did not know that counselors were now in the primary schools. This is the level they should be at. I agree that problems could be diminished if we had support for our students at the elementary level. I also like the new model for counselors. I don't think up to this point that we utilize our counselors to their fullest. I agree that if we did utilitize them as outlined that student adverse behaviors would decrease and student acheivement would increase. Many of our students need all the support they can get to succeed in school and beyond.
November 14, 2010
Counseling
I agreed with Sandy, it is important to help beginning teachers to succeed. It costs too much money and time to go through the hiring process. A lot of time, as human beings, we tend to focus on people's weaknesses instead of strengths. By focusing on their strengths, we can help them expand them. With weaknesses, we can help them to improve, but using no judgments in the process.
Sunday, Nov 14th
Nov. 13th Class
Evaluating the district policies brings to light the fact that not every situation is dealt with in the policies. Also, the policies are not written in black and white, but provide gray areas for flexibility in decision making. I was also impressed with the fact that the unions do play a huge role in policy making and in deciding how situations between administration and teachers are viewed and handled.
November 14 post
11/14/10
The teacher remediation guest speaker was very helpful when we have that employee that we will need a remediation plan. Sandy's real life discussion with employees, so it does not become a remediation issue was helpful.
The School Counselor speakers were "OH GREAT!". Very well spent time!
11/14
The interview process was beneficial because I think I need to work at developing follow up questions to my original questions. The follow up questions can and should draw more out of the candidates which will allow you to make a better decision.
The counseling position has evolved along with the principal position. I believe their roles have change because our society has changed since we were in school. The different hats that each position now wear are related to the make up of your school and community. As future principals we should work with the counseling department closely as you would work with your asst. principal and other staff members. The value they can bring to your organization can make your job easier if used properly.
Interviews
In looking forward to applying for principal jobs, we need to be better than the rest. Better get started.
Weekend 2, Day 2
I was glad the counseling department came in today. There is so much more to counseling than just guidance in schools today. It was nice to receive an explanation of the current model, and the responsibilities that a school counselor has. I know how essential our school counselors are in the day-to-day operation in my building. Every day students come in with issues that carry over from their home environment and impact their achievement in the classroom.
I would say that this has been one of the best weekends I've had in the program in over 2 years. I've taken some good things away from the past two days, and look forward to our next discussion in a few weeks.
Saturday
school culture
After completing the school culture survey I was not suprised by my responses. I have felt/sensed and observed a culture that is adequate but not necessarily inviting and overally positive when you enter our building. From a physical stand point we need to get a face lift! We need to make the front of our building/yard look like a groomed golf course. We have a generic sign board out front that constantly is losing letters when the wind blows! Our school is located on the main road coming into town. It would be a great recruiting tool for families and business that are thinking about moving there to see a well kept building with a modern electronic board to advertise the good things that are happening in our district and building. The climate on the inside is adequate at best. Our buiding leadership is under restructuring due to the lack of leadership last year. The only way to create a better culture is to find another building leader that has proven experience and leadership ability. There was a sense of excitement last year but if fizzled quickly because the leadership was fake and self centered. A great leader will deflect all praise to their teachers and students and not talk about their accomplishments as though they did them on their own.
11 13 10 Personnel Policy Discussion
interviewing
She's a witch!
Saturday Nov 13
Weekend 2 Day 1
This morning I learned a lot about the interview process and was amazed at how differently people viewed the interview process. Personally I wanted to have a conversation with the candidate and let them do most of the talking while asking lots of follow-up questions to learn about there teaching style, personality, interests, etc… Other people in my group view the process much differently and believed each person needed to be asked the exact same questions. I was surprised to learn that is how WIU operates due to the threat of legal issues. I can understand some of the logic behind a strict set of questions, but personally I would not be able to operate in that context because I want to know people as individuals, and don’t believe the same set of questions would apply to every single candidate.
Policies
What I found to be the most interesting yet most frustrating is how much gray area there is in the administrative part of education. You really do need to set your standards for issues and try to keep everything in mind when they are making a decision. I found the issues that we discussed and how we would handle them very beneficial. Having real life situations helps to see all the different ways to look at things.
November 13
Saturday, November 13, 2010
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Combes Public Schools Scenario
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weekend #2 saturday
Also, the case studies that we reviewed were interesting to dissect and analyze the issues. The study of the 'witches' was hilarious.
Class November 13th
Weekend 2, Day 1
I enjoyed the case studies today. They are a great opportunity for us to discuss potential situations and the responsibility of an administrator in each. I also appreciated the opportunity to discuss interview questions together in a team. It was nice to talk about what aspects of interviewing candidates are important. I'm looking forward to the interviews tomorrow!
Saturday, Nov. 13
policy review - Dao
I think that it is important to follow what the policies say. However, it seems like everyone can have different interpretations on the same policy. Policies need to be very concrete and precise, if they are to be followed.
It is important to follow the rules, but then human are the ones who make rules, so there are always something that will not be black or white.
Interview questions and sitting in on an interview
November 13
Our candidates resume left a little bit to the imagination, so I'm looking forward to giving her tips on how to make her resume 'pop' more.
I'm going home to get rest....I'll see everyone tomorrow.